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=== RPM Dependencies ===
 
=== RPM Dependencies ===
  
RPM dependencies are the bane of all [http://redhat.com/ RedHat] distributions, and it's [http://mandriva.com/ various] [http://fedora.redhat.com/ ill-begotten] [http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/ spawn].
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RPMs are an excellent '''package''' format that store a wealth of information about system state and package information. What is often misunderstood is that RPM is '''not''' a dependency ''solver''.  RPMs will tell you what other package names, package meta-name or file will solve dependency requirements, but it does not actually try to find or do anything about those dependencies. Tools that work on top of RPM such as up2date (Red Hat), yum (Fedora, others) and apt (from Debian) will solve these dependencies for you and most modern RPM-based Linux distributions will come with (and use by default) these tools.
  
The problem stems from administrators who install packages built for DistroA on a box running DistroB.  The most notrious problem is attempting to run any package built for SuSE on anything else.  Different distributions will have package names, and different versions that are shipped.  For libraries such as glibc, this can  be very important.  Typically, an RPM package will require GLIBC(X.Y.Z), which will be appropriate for it's base distribution.  Some ''other'' distrbution may use GLIBC(X.Y.W) instead, so the dependency fails, and the package refuses to install.
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Where people often run into problems - often called "Dependency Hell" - is when people do [http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/W/Wrong-Thing.html The Wrong Thing] with an RPM-based system.  These problems of stem from administrators who install packages built for DistroA on a box running DistroB or an RPM from Version X on Version Y.  The most notrious problem is attempting to run any package built for SuSE on anything else.  Different distributions will have package names, and different versions that are shipped.  For libraries such as glibc, this can  be very important.  Typically, an RPM package will require GLIBC(X.Y.Z), which will be appropriate for it's base distribution.  Some ''other'' distrbution may use GLIBC(X.Y.W) instead, so the dependency fails, and the package refuses to install.
  
 
Additionally, different packages may overlap to greater or lesser extents.  This will cause a package conflict, and rpm will halt.
 
Additionally, different packages may overlap to greater or lesser extents.  This will cause a package conflict, and rpm will halt.
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=== Managing dependencies ===
 
=== Managing dependencies ===
  
There are possibly several solutions to dealing with dependency problemsWhile Debian's <code>apt-get</code> program is frequently praised for ease of use, and cited as "better" than <code>rpm</code>, this is actually an unfair comparisonA better match would be to compare <code>dpkg</code> to <code>rpm</code>, and <code>apt-get</code> to RedHat's <code>up2date</code> program, or <code>[http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/ yum]</code> (used by Fedora and many other distributions)And just to get in a cheap shot, the apt-get source code is ''ugly''.
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==== Dependency Solving via Toolchains ====
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As mentioned above, most RPM-based distributions provide native tools to solve dependencies, usually from the particular distribution's mirror sitesFedora, for example, comes out-of-the-box ready to use yum for all package management tasksRed Hat uses a semi-proprietary tool called up2date to update it's Enterprise Linux distributions from the Red Hat NetworkOther distributions that are RPM-based use yum or apt-get.
  
Both up2date and yum handle dependencies, just like apt-get.  Yum easily handles mutliple sources of packages, and creating a "repository" to distribute package to clients is relatively easy.  A server for up2date is a bit trickier.  If you have an [http://rhn.redhat.com RHN] subscription, you ''must'' to use up2date; there is no other way to connect to RedHat's servers.  You can run your own server using the [http://current.tigris.org Current] project.  Newer versions of up2date also support yum repositories directly.
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Yum easily handles mutliple sources of packages, and creating a "repository" to distribute package to clients is relatively easy.  A server for up2date is a bit trickier.  If you have an [http://rhn.redhat.com RHN] subscription, you ''must'' to use up2date; there is no other way to connect to RedHat's servers.  You can run your own server using the [http://current.tigris.org Current] project (Note: This project has been abandonded now that yum is a mainstream tool).  Newer versions of up2date also support yum repositories directly.
  
A last way to manage dependencies is to make them go away.  Frequently, this can be accomplished by rebuilding the RPM from the source package.  This is almost always works if you come across package built for a similar distribution to what you are actually running (for example, a package built for RedHat Enterprise 3, that you want to run on Fedora Core 4).
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==== Dependency Solving via Compatability Packages ====
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Someone trying to install an older RPM on a newer system should also find out if there is a compatability package available that provides the library necessary.  compat-libstdc++-296 is a frequent example for compatability with commercial RPMs such as Java and Oracle.  Another is openssl096 which provides the older libcrypto.so.1 that many applications still want to use even though it's been long superceeded.
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==== Dependency Solving by Package Rebuilding ====
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Another way to manage dependencies is to make them go away by recompiling or repackaging the RPM.  Frequently, this can be accomplished by rebuilding the RPM from the source package.  This is almost always works if you come across package built for a similar distribution to what you are actually running (for example, a package built for RedHat Enterprise 3, that you want to run on Fedora Core 4).
  
 
[http://rpm.org/RPM-HOWTO/ Building RPMS] is beyond the scope of this article, but the first few steps are usually:
 
[http://rpm.org/RPM-HOWTO/ Building RPMS] is beyond the scope of this article, but the first few steps are usually:
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===What 'Not' to do ===
 
===What 'Not' to do ===
  
Do 'NOT' install package outside of your distribution, unless you fully understand the consequences of your actions.  The package developer put the dependencies in there for a reason, ignore them at your peril.
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Do 'NOT' install packages outside of your distribution, unless you fully understand the consequences of your actions.  The package developer put the dependencies in there for a reason, ignore them at your peril.

Latest revision as of 21:27, 7 February 2006

RPM Dependencies

RPMs are an excellent package format that store a wealth of information about system state and package information. What is often misunderstood is that RPM is not a dependency solver. RPMs will tell you what other package names, package meta-name or file will solve dependency requirements, but it does not actually try to find or do anything about those dependencies. Tools that work on top of RPM such as up2date (Red Hat), yum (Fedora, others) and apt (from Debian) will solve these dependencies for you and most modern RPM-based Linux distributions will come with (and use by default) these tools.

Where people often run into problems - often called "Dependency Hell" - is when people do The Wrong Thing with an RPM-based system. These problems of stem from administrators who install packages built for DistroA on a box running DistroB or an RPM from Version X on Version Y. The most notrious problem is attempting to run any package built for SuSE on anything else. Different distributions will have package names, and different versions that are shipped. For libraries such as glibc, this can be very important. Typically, an RPM package will require GLIBC(X.Y.Z), which will be appropriate for it's base distribution. Some other distrbution may use GLIBC(X.Y.W) instead, so the dependency fails, and the package refuses to install.

Additionally, different packages may overlap to greater or lesser extents. This will cause a package conflict, and rpm will halt.

It actually gets worse...

At this point, the admin will discover the --force option to rpm, and proceed to break things. At best, the package will simply install, but refuse to run and take up disk space. At worst, it will overwrite critical libraries, binaries, and config files. This tends to render a system useless.


Managing dependencies

Dependency Solving via Toolchains

As mentioned above, most RPM-based distributions provide native tools to solve dependencies, usually from the particular distribution's mirror sites. Fedora, for example, comes out-of-the-box ready to use yum for all package management tasks. Red Hat uses a semi-proprietary tool called up2date to update it's Enterprise Linux distributions from the Red Hat Network. Other distributions that are RPM-based use yum or apt-get.

Yum easily handles mutliple sources of packages, and creating a "repository" to distribute package to clients is relatively easy. A server for up2date is a bit trickier. If you have an RHN subscription, you must to use up2date; there is no other way to connect to RedHat's servers. You can run your own server using the Current project (Note: This project has been abandonded now that yum is a mainstream tool). Newer versions of up2date also support yum repositories directly.

Dependency Solving via Compatability Packages

Someone trying to install an older RPM on a newer system should also find out if there is a compatability package available that provides the library necessary. compat-libstdc++-296 is a frequent example for compatability with commercial RPMs such as Java and Oracle. Another is openssl096 which provides the older libcrypto.so.1 that many applications still want to use even though it's been long superceeded.

Dependency Solving by Package Rebuilding

Another way to manage dependencies is to make them go away by recompiling or repackaging the RPM. Frequently, this can be accomplished by rebuilding the RPM from the source package. This is almost always works if you come across package built for a similar distribution to what you are actually running (for example, a package built for RedHat Enterprise 3, that you want to run on Fedora Core 4).

Building RPMS is beyond the scope of this article, but the first few steps are usually:

  1. Obtain the source rpm. It will be named: package-version.src.rpm
  2. Run: rpmbuild --rebuild package-version.src.rpm

It should be obvious if it works or fails. Other links that are useful for package building:


What 'Not' to do

Do 'NOT' install packages outside of your distribution, unless you fully understand the consequences of your actions. The package developer put the dependencies in there for a reason, ignore them at your peril.